Re: [-empyre-] a book, dna and code



Jasper,

But the crucial difference here is that we are precisely refusing the theorisation of genes as miraculous actors. And I agree entirely with the marxist sentiments expressed, but given that science, the scientific method remains the best means developed to explain things and explain the previously unexplainable. Extreme care needs to taken when establishing relations between science and capital because whilst all of the below is true isn't it rather wonderful that science makes it provable ?

Ontological equivalence, equality ok... I haven't read the Houllebecq, however my two favorite novels which address genetic issues are Mitchinson's 'Memoirs of spacewoman' (1950) (she was J.B.S Haldanes sister) and a recent Scott Westerfield space opera... Neither are fascistic and the former is a rather wonderful communist utopia.

later
s

Jasper Bernes wrote:

Steve, Judith et al,

As I see it, the very isolation of "genes" and "genomes," and the tendencies to fetishize these as miraculous actors, so well demonstrated by Judith's book, is consonant with the logic of the commodity that undergirds capitalism. I think that, for instance, people like Lukacs are pretty convincing about the ways in which some of the basic philosophical positions of scientists are, actually, class positions--bourgeois, reified, passive, brimming with antinomies. That's not to say that science isn't productive of knowledge or technics, or can't work against capitalism (which capitalism itself always does). It's only that science presupposes and depends upon an enormous division of labor, one that often gets projected onto its material.

I'd like to hear more about this ontological equivalence between genes. I don't at all understand it. But I'd like to! There's a rather frightening version of genetically-engineered ontological equality at the end of Houllebecq's The Elementary Particles. It would be interesting to distinguish the neo-fascist brand from the communist one. Do you know the book?

Jasper









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Jasper/Judith/all

Yes it is. nicely put.

both: "genomics represents a general tendency in late capitalism for the sphere of representation/culture to collapse into and become co-extensive with the social or economic." and the larger Badiou quote is exceptionally interesting because it displays some of the profound limitations in Badiou's work. The use of the word 'apolitical' implies a concept of the political which is to limited. And yet the centrality of emancipation precisely mirrors my/our ontological work, philosophy is always ontological and as such precedes ethics and cultural work. One of my reasons for my interest in this specific topic is the convergance between the ontological work focused on difference, equivalence, and equality. One of the events that began the current trajectory was a meeting with a particularly anti-humanist, communist, geneticist from India who made the rather important proposition that there is an absolute equality, an equivalence between all genes, genes as singularities.

It's this which requires that we are cautious in the adoption of meaningful phrases like 'late capitalism' which in its reference to Mandel's rather lovely book, runs into my scientist who demands that we think rather differently and recognize that science is not capital.


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steve
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